Take your pick...
Or...
On an unrelated side note, I'm not gonna lie, I'd totally watch this movie.
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Take your pick...
On an unrelated side note, I'm not gonna lie, I'd totally watch this movie.
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It feels like a lifetime ago (2019) when I first spun a Twisted Sister album, their massive breakthrough, Stay Hungry. It was my second year of doing album reviews, and I hadn't quite hit my stride, nor landed on my formula for each post, but for what it's worth, I enjoyed the album.
At that point in time, I had three of the five 80's albums from the band, and if you would have asked me then if I would fill in the gaps, I would have said no. Of course, this was also back when I was really focused on my collection, adamantly working towards albums that had songs I actually knew, and actively wanted to own. Fluff was rare back then, unless I was hitting up a Timonium show to dig through piles and piles of dollar CD's.
Well, time has a way of changing a man. As the years rolled by, I found myself looking into their debut, Under The Blade, and their final album of the decade, Love Is For Suckers but would never pull the trigger. Both cost more than I really wanted to spend, and not knowing any of the tracks, it just didn't make sense. Yet for some reason, I kept coming back to their debut. I'd search for it. See the pricing and move on, and in late 2025, finally pulled the trigger, and picked up the two stragglers.
When Under The Blade was initially released, it was only on cassette and vinyl. CD, at this point in time, was just starting up, and the format was reserved for select few albums, typically back catalogs of already established legacy artists. As a result, when it did finally see a pressing in 1985, it was remixed by Atlantic Records prior to release, a decision which was initially criticized by Sister fans.
Atlantic's goal was to capitalize on the band's momentum from 1984's Stay Hungry, while fans eagerly awaited 1985's Come Out And Play. However, the problem they saw was that the original mix of the band's debut was far more aggressive, metal if you will, as compared to their popular hard rock pop sound which catapulted them to mainstream success. Because of this, the album was, as noted, remixed, making it sound more familiar to the current sound of the band. This version of the album would also feature a forgotten 1979 single from Sister, I'll Never Grow Up, Now!
The original cut would eventually get its day in digital. Eagle Records would restore the original mixes of the tracks and release them through online streaming sources. This was followed by Rhino Records producing a limited run of CD's, which are out of print at this point.
Personally, I own the 1985 re-issue, and I'm totally fine with this. I like the more poppy rock sound of Twisted Sister and really don't have any interest in hearing them as a hardcore metal group.
Because I don't know what the original mixes sound like, I have nothing to compare these remixed tracks to. However, as a whole, it was a pretty solid album. What You Don't Know (Sure Can Hurt You), Bad Boys (Of Rock 'N' Roll), and Under The Blade were the standout tracks that I took away from it.
It was actually kind of exciting to listen to and really ramped up my interest in hearing more from Dee Snyder and the boys. I'm already ramping up to play through 1983's You Can't Stop Rock 'N' Roll.
Tomorrow I'll also take a step back and hit a bit of history for the band. It'll be a nice segue into their sophomore album. Until then, that about wraps this one up.
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Title: Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man Annual
Issue Number: 6
Release Date: July 1986
Highlights
Nothing says band love like telling your lead singer to hit the road in lieu of firing management. But that's exactly what happened to lead singer Fish, when he gave his Marillion band mates the ultimatum of him or them. He'd depart in 1988, with new singer Steven Hogarth joining in 1989.
Hogarth was an interesting choice for a band who had built their career on top of a prog rock foundation. Mainly because the new singer came from a new wave background and showcased very different styles of vocals and stage presence from his predecessor.
Prior to his joining, and the departure of Fish, the group had begun recording some of the music for what would become their final album of the 80's, Seasons End. However, when Fish departed, he took with him the lyrics he'd crafted for the instrumentation. This meant Hogarth's first task would be to set to work on new lyrics to fit the already completed music.
On a side note, these Fish recorded tracks would eventually be released as bonus material for the remastered Clutching At Straws, and additionally, several of the lyrics made it into his own future solo projects.
Playing through it, right away the new vocals didn't work for me. Over the past four albums, my mind had finally accepted the sound of Marillion, and frankly, this wasn't it.
I didn't like this album. The minimal spark that was the band was gone for me, and there were no tracks I found to be even mildly entertaining. In fact, I ended up tuning out most of it in lieu of filling gaps in my collection of albums I was missing, which in hindsight kind of makes me more annoyed. This album made me spend money I didn't necessarily want or need to spend.
Fish and his prior band mates would eventually meat up a decade later and reconcile amongst each other. However, any form of reunion was dismissed.
The band continued on with Hogarth as their lead singer, releasing sixteen more albums since 1989's Seasons End, with their latest being 2022's An Hour Before It's Dark. Amazingly, there's been no lineup changes over the past two (plus) decades.
With that, I say goodbye to Marillion. It wasn't the best of listening sessions, but I suppose it also wasn't the worst. Am I a fan of the band at the end of the day? I am not.
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Title: Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man
Issue Number: 119
Release Date: October 1986
Highlights
My journey thus far through Marillion's 80's discography is not going as expected. While I was hoping to find a hidden gem of prog rock delicacies, what I'm instead getting is bloated mediocrity. Admittedly, it's a bit disappointing.
I pick up today with 1987's Clutching At Straws. Released as the follow up to their massively successful Misplaced Childhood (1985), the band had an opportunity to capitalize, and soar into mainstream popularity. This, however, wouldn't occur.
While the album would become their second most successful of all time, in terms of the charts, this didn't translate to sales. Gone were the previous certifications of platinum in the UK and Germany, replaced with gold. Regardless, it has received quite a bit of critical praise, being noted among the greatest prog rock albums of all time.
If I didn't know any better, the voice of Fish could easily be mistaken for that of Phil Collins. This works in his favor because it keeps me a bit more invested in the music than I otherwise would have been.
What I've said before, and I suppose am going to continue to say, is that the instrumentation on the album is great. It's layered deep with texture, tempo changes, and slick riffs which keep your ears perked up. However, it once again fails to deliver anything hit worthy.
Once again, one track stood out, also a trend with their albums. This time it was the song, Warm Wet Circles. I would have actually picked a second this time, White Russian, but just as the song would take off, the tempo would drop considerably, derailing any momentum it had going for it. This same thing happened with the songs, Slainte Mhath, and The Last Straw: Happy Ending. It was with these that I realized that when I did hear songs that I liked from them, it was really only parts of it, versus the entire tune.
With eleven tracks, and a fifty-three-minute run time, it's also the longest Marillion album from their albums to date. Being their first album to be released on CD, I can't help but feel that this is simply a product of the CD era bloat. It's a trap a lot of bands fell into, wherein they felt they had to meet a runtime, versus focusing on solid structured tracks.
during this period, the band toured heavily. Not out of need or desire to promote the album, but rather because their management was taking 20% of all gross. As Fish would say, "He was making a fantastic amount of money while we were working our ***** off." To make matters worse, the singer would find a note proposing a US tour, which would leave them needing to borrow £14,000 from EMI just to support it.
Having enough, Fish would give the band an ultimatum. Either they would drop management and continue with him, or keep management, and go on without him. Surprisingly, the band voted to keep management. Fish was out. His last show occurred at Craigtoun Country Park on July 23, 1988.
Steve Hogarth, formerly of the Europeans, would be hired to replace Fish in 1989. In contrast, this was a massive change. Not only did Hogarth bring a new wave background to the band, but a completely different vocal style, and stage presence. At the time, he noted he didn't even own any previous Marillion albums. Together, they released the album, Seasons End, Marillion's last for the era, but far from their last to date.
Tomorrow wraps up my journey through the band, and candidly, I'm kind of glad.
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Title: Marvel Fanfare
Issue Number: 42
Release Date: February 1989
Highlights
With their underperforming sophomore album, Fugazi, Marillion needed something big to rebound back. This would come with their third album, 1985's Misplaced Childhood. Lead singer Fish would conceive the concept album while enduring a ten-hour acid trip.
Though considered more mainstream, the album is also their first full concept from start to finish, with each side containing two continuous pieces of music. The story has, "thematic elements of lost love, sudden success, acceptance, and lost childhood, along with an upbeat ending." - Some random guy on Wiki.
Misplaced Childhood would shoot up the UK charts, becoming their first and only number one album, staying there for forty-one weeks. It would also reach the top ten in multiple countries, such as Germany (3), Switzerland (6), and the Netherlands (6), to name a few. Even the US gave it more love than previous albums which hovered around the high one hundreds and low two hundreds, with Childhood peaking at forty-seven.
Lead single Kayleigh would be the bands only song to hit the Billboard Hot 100, peaking at seventy-four. It would fare much better in the UK, where it reached number two on the Singles Chart. It was followed by Lavender, which reached number five, and the less successful Heart Of Lothain, which peaked at twenty-nine.
The album would reach platinum certification in the UK and Germany, and be followed by gold certification in Switzerland, making it their most successful release to date, and their best of all time in their career. 1985 was a big year in pop rock music, so this was no small achievement.
Kayleigh is one serious banger of a track. This is the kind of Marillion I want in my life. Good instrumentation packed into a feasible four-minute run time, with catchy riffs and vocals.
This, however, is where the concept portion of the album becomes problematic. Because the tracks ebb and flow into each other without so much as a breath in between, there's no distinguishing the beginning or end of each song. As stand-alone tracks these either incoherently start or abruptly cut off. That's lame.
The trend with Marillion seems to be that I'm only coming away with one song after each listening session. That's not a good average, and far below what I expected. Personally, I also didn't see Misplaced Childhood as any better than their previous albums. It was just kind of more of the same.
At their peak, Marillion seemed poised to only get bigger and better. Unfortunately, this wouldn't be the case. Despite their 1987 released Clutching At Straws being their second highest album of all time, it would see a massive decline in sales. After extensive touring, it also brought the band to an ultimatum decision that would either make or break them. Which option did they choose? Well, you'll have to come back tomorrow to find out...Or Google it. I suppose Google is always an option.
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Title: The Amazing Spider-Man
Issue Number: 282
Release Date: November 1986
Highlights
Fugazi. It's a unique title, that on the surface might be written off as gibberish. However, the word actual has its roots in the 70's, used primarily by the New York Italian community, who used it to describe something fake, or bogus.
Upon wrapping up their debut album tour, Marillion was put under considerable pressure by EMI to deliver a new studio album. The problem was that they were currently going through a rotation of drummers, who had all been fired. In walked Jonathan Mover, who after auditioning was on tour with the band within days. However, as the group sat down individually to develop material, lead singer Fish would suggest they create a concept album. It would be Mover who would push back, stating that the songs everyone had worked on wouldn't creatively fit into that format, and would need to be scrapped. Fish apparently didn't like this challenge from the new guy and fired him.
After filling in as a session drummer, Ian Mosley would be added to the band full time in October 1983. This addition would put the classic lineup of the group in place with Fish on vocals, Steve Rothery on guitars, Mark Kelly on keyboards, Pete Trewavas on bass, and Ian Mosley on drums. Together, they began crafting the tracks that would become 1984's Fugazi. However, this was anything buy smooth sailing.
Their production schedule would run so behind that they'd actually start the promotional tour for the album before it was even finished. The end result was called incoherent, not helped by the consistent rotation of musicians leading up to it, and the ten different studios in which it was recorded over four months.
Much like their debut, Script For A Jester's Tear, I hear a lot of solid musicianship, but in that, nothing that really resonated. While the previous album also suffered from tracks which were excessively long, eight plus minutes, the band seems to have reserved this for just two tracks. Unfortunately, the remainder typically huddle around the six-to-seven-minute mark, once again making them feel bloated.
I get it, they're a prog band, and that's king of their thing. But where I'm at as of now, I'm not necessarily seeing that this is going to pan out for me. I don't think I'm destined to be a Marillion fan. Such is the life when you blindly buy an entire era discography without knowing anything about what you're getting yourself into. Honestly, I don't really even want to listen to their next three albums. I mean, I will, but I'm not looking forward to it.
Fugazi proved less popular with fans as well, only reaching gold certification. In comparison with their platinum debut, this was considered an under performance. The album would, however, reach number five on the UK charts, and stay there for twenty weeks. It also produced two UK top thirty hits, Punch And Judy, and Assassing.
If Marillion was going to stay relevant in the hear today also gone today world of rock, they were going to need to come up with something bigger, and better. That they did with their 1985 released Misplaced Childhood. It would go on to be their biggest success with its more mainstream sound.
Okay, maybe I won't give up on the band just yet. Also, the title track of Fugazi, which is the final on the album, and was what was playing as I wrapped up this post, was pretty okay.
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Title: The Amazing Spider-Man
Issue Number: 281
Release Date: October 1986
Highlights
While preparing a post "recently", I came across the band name Marillion. Specifically, by way of Producer, Chris Kimsey. Unfortunately, I can't remember what post that was, but I do recall it being one of the Psychedelic Furs Spins. This took me down a rabbit hole, somewhat looking into this unknown band, initially mistaking them for drag queen pop star Marilyn.
For those of you who also read my Christmas 2025 posts, you may also recall me getting their entire 80's discography. I admit, this is a habit which has gotten me in trouble before. By that, I mean accumulating albums that after hearing them, I regret making the purchase. Hopefully, that won't happen as I go through their corresponding albums.
Though their first studio album wouldn't come until 1983, Marillion started taking shape in 1977 when Mick Pointer joined the band Electric Gypsy. He would depart shortly thereafter with member, Doug Irvine, and form Silmarillion, named after J.R.R. Tolkien's book. They were joined by Neil Cockle, and Martin Jenner, but this would change by 1979 with the two new editions departing.
The lineup, consisting of Mick Pointer, Steve Rothery, Doug Irvine, and Brian Jelliman, would play their first live show in 1980. It was also around this time that, per Pointer, the name was shortened to Marillion. However, other sources say this occurred in 1981 and was done so to avoid potential copyright claim from Tolkien's estate.
Following an addition at Leyland Farm, Fish (Derek William Dick) and William 'Diz' Minnitt would replace Irvine. This lineup would play their first show in the spring of 1981. By the end of the year, Mark Kelly had replaced Jelliman, with Pete Trewavas replacing Minnitt.
Marillion got the attention of Friday Rock Show, and after playing a session, were signed to EMI Records. This resulted in their first single, Market Square Heroes, which featured what some call, "the 17-minute epic B-side, Grendel." This was followed by their 1983 debut, Script For A Jester's Tear.
With its dark progressive rock sound, the album would become a massive success, peaking at number seven on the UK album charts, and reach platinum status. It would peak even higher in Germany, reaching number five. Though it would crack the top fifty in Sweden, it wouldn't fair as well in other countries. Regardless, Tear did spawn successful singles in the UK; He Knows You Know (peaking at 35), and Garden Party (peaking at 16).
He Knows You Know would also receive mild airplay in the USA, peaking at number twenty-one on the mainstream rock charts. The album would also reach one hundred seventy-five on the Billboard 200.
While Marillion was praised for giving progressive rock a second chance, others would accuse them of being Genesis knockoffs. Playing through their debut, I can understand this assessment. This very much so sounds like the Peter Gabriel era of the far more popular band.
The instrumentation is really good, but for me, I don't hear hits. With songs typically over the eight-minute mark, this is also understandable. These are not radio friendly tracks.
Overall, it was a relatively bland first impression, but I'm still hopeful things will get better as I progress through their albums. If nothing else, I know now what I'm in for, so my ears should be prepared for drawn out rock operas.
After wrapping up their support tour for Script For A Jester's Tear in 1983, the band unceremoniously fired drummer Mick Pointer. That's pretty messed up, considering he was literally the first founding member of the band. Fish would state the decision was made because his timing was awful, and he failed to develop at the same pace as the remaining members of the band.
Apparently, nobody was good enough for them because over the next six months, three drummers would come and go. These included original Camel drummer Andy Ward, followed by John 'Martyr' Marter, and Jonathan Mover. It wouldn't be until Ian Mosley arrived that they'd bring him into the fold long term, putting in place the classic lineup of Fish on vocals, Steve Rothery on guitars, Mark Kelly on keyboards, Pete Trewavas on bass, and Mosley on drums.
That's a pretty good stopping point for today. I'll pick up tomorrow with more Marillion, as I jump into 1984's Fugazi.
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Title: The Amazing Spider-Man
Issue Number: 280
Release Date: September 1986
Highlights